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Post by Byson on Mar 31, 2009 17:30:19 GMT -5
So, Reid Anderson has come up with 1 idea that might help get the tag division active. That would be making a rule that you can't go for the Undisputed Title until you've held one other championship.
Does anyone think this would be affective or would it just make people going for tag belts just to drop em immediately?
What u folks thank?
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Post by thumbtack on Mar 31, 2009 17:33:47 GMT -5
I think there is alreayd too many titles, to say we've only been going a matter of months. So this stipulation will jsutmean evne more title changes making it evne more unrealitic, but end of the day your fed so your choice.
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Post by Madison Manson on Mar 31, 2009 18:58:32 GMT -5
I don't think that requiring a previous title to be eligible for the Undisputed Title is the way to drum up interest in the tag division. If anything, I could see it creating more competition for the X-treme belt, mostly because the points required for it are fewer and you aren't relying on another person in order to secure your win.
The last time there was a boom in the number of tag teams, most of them dissolved afterward because they were formed with the express intent of taking a free shot at a vacant title. I think the key to forming an active tag division is for people to form teams that will last beyond a single shot at the title. Also, it will probably create a lot of people winning the belts and then looking for a chance to drop them.
I'm not sure how to make the tag division work, but if you feel like there needs to be more of a challenge to going after the Undisputed belt, then just up the number of points required.
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Post by Reid Anderson on Mar 31, 2009 20:11:56 GMT -5
The Other option of making people wait to get their title shots is to create a ranking system where you have to be number one on the rankings board to get a shot at a title. Then if people had to wait longer to get their shots they will possibly try and do stuff with other people while they are waiting to get their shots. So then maybe people will create tag teams while they are waiting or they might even start storylines while they are waiting for their shot, both things I mentioned we Really Need! That is one more thing that you can do, and that is the way you use the points is to enter the division that has the title you're challenging for, and the only way to get the Undisputed Title would be to spend your points for a shot at the title as there would be no Undisputed Division and we would make the points to get the title shot much higher. Now obviously right now if we moved to that most of the title shots would have to be given to you by the GM but I think this is also a possible solution. So I'd like to hear what you think about this possible solution to some of our problems with a few things.
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Post by Phoenix on Mar 31, 2009 20:57:39 GMT -5
I'm sorry Reid, but I don't agree unfortunately! A ranking system would be a little pointless, since it could take forever for people to reach No.1 just to get a shot a title that's a little unfair, because the No.1 spot could never change, and it'll be the same person there all the time.
It can be rather disheartening and will probably cause a decrease in fed activity, which wouldn't be good for morale or business for that that matter.
And the other point about holding a title, before hand to get a shot at Undisputed? I agree with Madison, I don't think it's a good idea because some people might never get a title, which again will cause member-loss etc.
I understand you want to make the Tag Team division better, but that's no way to do it. From experience, why doesn't Byson just put certain people together in a like a tag team championship tournament, over 2 shows and those set pairs have to work their way to the finals at a PPV to compete for the gold. This would encourage people to work with new people, and also cause good competitive roleplays for the shows and that.
If people, don't like their partners then fine, fair enough more drama for ICW..but at least this way, if they happen to lose a match they won't have to stay teamed together unless they really want to thinking, they could work well together.
Making things harder for people to get isn't really, the best way to go, trust me. It just causes problems that Byson, doesn't really need here in the ICW.
That's my 2 cents, hope it helps! lol!
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Post by Byson on Mar 31, 2009 21:30:10 GMT -5
Personally, I don't see a problem in either division that won't be fixed over time & effort. I don't think the answer to sceneing or the tag division is create a ranking system or make any special rules.
Let's look at this, this place has been around ALMOST 2 months.
1 person has actually had a real (not set) Undisputed Championship Match.
1 match has been for the tag titles.
1 REAL match has been for the X-treme Championship.
The reason more people are going for X-treme or Undisputed is simple. These divisions are exciting! You got the Undisputed which is exciting for the obvious reasons, the X-treme championship that has had Ronald burying it's good name & the hardcore hero Fenrir coming to save it, and then with all or nothing you have Byson watching & reviewing, planning to pick.
Part of the reason the tag division is dull (partly my fault with booking) is that the tag champs don't do tag champ things. Obviously it's hard, since the main member is in a much more important journey. But we have all the champs really building up their belts, wrestling matches with it, the perfect 10 hasn't really done that, once again, no one faults.
We need a tag team with the belts who are going to be ALL about those belts. That is how people get excited about something, that is how they really wanna be part of that division, cause it's exciting.
Scening is just a hit & miss thing. People gotta have a lot of free time and gotta find something interesting. You can look in the backstage area and see people who are in tons of scenes but have left several scenes just in the middle of it. They get boring sometimes, they get dull, they go nowhere. It's rare a backstage scene is really something exciting. But I agree, people should try more, but that is just a personal thing, not a recipe to find out thing.
ANY comments or ideas on how to improve things will still be discussed completely. I just wanted to put my two cents in there. Jack, Madison, & Phoenix all made great points I wanted to discuss on.
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Post by Reid Anderson on Mar 31, 2009 21:50:14 GMT -5
as to the stuff about Scene's Byson. I believe part of the problem we have with scenes is everyone wants to either do one conversation with one person's character and then be done so therefore we don't have people who are friends in scenes which then can cause some interest when those two people start a scene again. Also both feuds we have right now if either of the people involved in them bumped into each other there would be a brawl backstage which isn't really appropriate for our Locker Room area IMO. So what I'm saying is people need to start doing more scene's that have Anyone marked on them, and if there are none that are available then create one and leave it open to anyone don't just go to your comfort zone of people to scene with because then you won't interact with other people as we all seem to want to interact with other people. If you do a scene you may realize your characters can do a pretty darn good storyline together. You can't just sit back and wait and hope a storyline will smack you in the face saying, "Hey I'm a storyline use me." because the only people who have storylines forced upon them are champions because they have to face whoever is Number one contender. So all in all what i'm saying is what I said on Saturday we need to get people to venture outside their comfort zones and stop thinking Oh this storyline wouldn't work cause there is this insy bitsy problem with something in it and then we will have more storylines. And as for the tag division I think we will see an increase in it once we get more and more members because they will realize that they want to do something with their characters and when the Undisputed Champ and the X-Treme Champ get stuck in storylines where those people can't challenge for titles then the newer people will look to something else and that may just be the tag division!
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Post by Daniel Fenrir on Apr 5, 2009 9:32:29 GMT -5
I had a Tag Team partner, but he left. It is hard to find a new one, buut, I am scouting  |
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